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Post by Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers on Jan 15, 2013 15:50:07 GMT -8
A couple of questions on extensions for 2013. (I split into 3 posts below)
Post-season extensions ($5 for this year, I believe)
1. In regards to the post-2012 extension, these were due on January 15. Any updates on each team?
2. In terms of the post-2012 extensions, I understand that you must keep the players given this extension in 2013 (i.e. the extension shown with an "^"). However, I am assuming that players extended after prior seasons using this method (as shown by the "^") do not have to be keepers if this is the second year since they were extended. (i.e., these players were already kept in the 2012 draft as required, but can be dropped for 2013 even if they have one year left of a 2 year extension). Please verify if this is correct.
3. I believe the cost for this type of extension is $5 this year. Is this going up in the future and to what?
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Post by Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers on Jan 15, 2013 15:50:55 GMT -8
In the case of the standard pre-season extensions (the * type)
4.. Are these still $3 for each year extended for 2013 or does it increase this season?
5. What is the cost of these extensions in future years? Is it going up?
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Post by Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers on Jan 15, 2013 15:52:56 GMT -8
This is technically not an extension question, but it does go to the cost of keepers and the round players are taken as part of the draft.
6. In the past, round 28-35 picks were all available for cheap keepers (i.e. $7 FA or less) before you had to go back to take round 27 & earlier picks. With the new rules (30 round draft followed by a 5 round minor league draft), the number of major league draft spots is reduced. I assume this means that round 28-30 (i.e. 3 spots) are available before you start going back to round 27 and lower picks. Am I correct in my understanding of this or not?
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Post by Joe - Milwaukee Brewers on Jan 15, 2013 18:14:17 GMT -8
I traded for picks that we dont even draft this year either.I had 30-35 extras so now I lost out on them and lose that cheaper value pick I excel at
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Post by Joe - Milwaukee Brewers on Jan 15, 2013 18:14:45 GMT -8
30-35 as in rounds
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Post by Joe - Milwaukee Brewers on Jan 15, 2013 18:16:02 GMT -8
good questions on the finality of the cost of players.If a player was extended last year you are not obligated to keep them this year.
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Post by Chris - D-Town Diamond Dusters on Jan 26, 2013 10:39:23 GMT -8
Somehow I totally missed this thread - sorry mike and joe! I'll answer each question specifically in a bit, but the MLB draft is still 35 rounds this year. Rosters will be 30, and any extra players will need to be DL'd or dropped.
I'll get to the rest when im on a computer and not my phone!
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Post by Chris - D-Town Diamond Dusters on Jan 26, 2013 13:42:47 GMT -8
A couple of questions on extensions for 2013. (I split into 3 posts below) 1. In regards to the post-2012 extension, these were due on January 15. Any updates on each team? 2. In terms of the post-2012 extensions, I understand that you must keep the players given this extension in 2013 (i.e. the extension shown with an "^"). However, I am assuming that players extended after prior seasons using this method (as shown by the "^") do not have to be keepers if this is the second year since they were extended. (i.e., these players were already kept in the 2012 draft as required, but can be dropped for 2013 even if they have one year left of a 2 year extension). Please verify if this is correct. 3. I believe the cost for this type of extension is $5 this year. Is this going up in the future and to what? 1. All rosters are up to date, with the exception of Lakeland - which I will update in a few minutes. 2. You are correct. The "0" players are only required to be kept the first year. If you have a player who was extended last year you can drop him. 3. The cost of extending a "0" player is $5 per year. There are no current plans to increase that amount. |
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Post by Chris - D-Town Diamond Dusters on Jan 26, 2013 13:44:11 GMT -8
In the case of the standard pre-season extensions (the * type) 4.. Are these still $3 for each year extended for 2013 or does it increase this season? 5. What is the cost of these extensions in future years? Is it going up? 4. Preseason extensions are still $3 per year. There are no plans for that amount to increase at this time. 5. See #4. |
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Post by Chris - D-Town Diamond Dusters on Jan 26, 2013 13:57:10 GMT -8
This is technically not an extension question, but it does go to the cost of keepers and the round players are taken as part of the draft. 6. In the past, round 28-35 picks were all available for cheap keepers (i.e. $7 FA or less) before you had to go back to take round 27 & earlier picks. With the new rules (30 round draft followed by a 5 round minor league draft), the number of major league draft spots is reduced. I assume this means that round 28-30 (i.e. 3 spots) are available before you start going back to round 27 and lower picks. Am I correct in my understanding of this or not? 6. I think I see what you're saying, and you are almost exactly correct. To add to the point: The lowest salary a MLB player will have going forward will be $6 (Round 30 value). This year, any player drafted in rounds 30-35 will be $6. Free agents going forward will be $10, equivalent to a 26th round pick. Now, you may keep guys priced lower than $6, if they are a minor league draftee who is now in the MLB. The way I think of it is like a veterans minimum ($6) vs. a rookie contract ($5 and below). If you have a minor leaguer at $3, for instance, who is being kept as a MLB player because he now is one - then he would be equal to a 30th round pick for keeper purposes. |
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Post by Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers on Jan 26, 2013 14:13:51 GMT -8
Now, you may keep guys priced lower than $6, if they are a minor league draftee who is now in the MLB. The way I think of it is like a veterans minimum ($6) vs. a rookie contract ($5 and below). If you have a minor leaguer at $3, for instance, who is being kept as a MLB player because he now is one - then he would be equal to a 30th round pick for keeper purposes. For example, I have Soria for $1 right now. 1. I assume he is $1 for my keepers this year. 2. If I would extend, I assume it would be $3 per year on top of $1. 3. Does his base salary immediately jump to $6 or if I do a post season extension will it be $1 plus $5 per year at the end of the season. |
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Post by Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers on Jan 26, 2013 14:16:30 GMT -8
2. In terms of the post-2012 extensions, I understand that you must keep the players given this extension in 2013 (i.e. the extension shown with an "^"). However, I am assuming that players extended after prior seasons using this method (as shown by the "^") do not have to be keepers if this is the second year since they were extended. (i.e., these players were already kept in the 2012 draft as required, but can be dropped for 2013 even if they have one year left of a 2 year extension). Please verify if this is correct. 2. You are correct. The "0" players are only required to be kept the first year. If you have a player who was extended last year you can drop him. I just want to make sure. I have players that were extended for 2 years so they are now 1^ (not 0^). I assume they do not need to be kept also. |
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Post by Chris - D-Town Diamond Dusters on Jan 26, 2013 14:49:39 GMT -8
For soria, he would be grandfathered in, so to speak, as a $1 player. No currently rostered players will have their salaries altered. So next year, if he is a 4/1* for instance, he could be kept again for a 30th round pick.
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Post by Chris - D-Town Diamond Dusters on Jan 26, 2013 14:51:55 GMT -8
I just want to make sure. I have players that were extended for 2 years so they are now 1^ (not 0^). I assume they do not need to be kept also. That is correct, they would not be required keepers. |
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Post by Quintin - Alexandria Beetles on Jan 26, 2013 15:00:25 GMT -8
What is the reason FA keeper prices are going up to $10?
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Post by Chris - D-Town Diamond Dusters on Jan 26, 2013 23:30:02 GMT -8
The main reason is that keeper lists are already riddled with marginal FA keepers, who are only kept because they are such a value at $7. Free agents have always been too much if a value in a keeper sense in my opinion. Realistically, a league average or below SP should. It be a keeper. But, since he is equivalent to a 29th round pick currently, he would be of value at $7. This change should help to correct that, at least a little.
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