Trade Waiting Period

[Chris - D-Town Diamond Dusters]

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[Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers]

I am in favor of keeping it as is. I do think it is valuable to get some insights on a trade. I also think that an instantaneous trade would cause disruption in the league if there was a traded that was ultimately to be overturned.

Imagine a scenario where Team A trades 4 players to Team B for 1 player. (No names let's just assume it was overturned for some reason.) Immediately, one owner drops 4 lower players to the FA pool while the other trader has to pick up 3 players from the waiver wire. Chris has questions about the trade 1 day later once he sees it executed and some others may have e-mailed concern. Some back and forth on the trade goes on. In the mean time, the 4 dropped players clear waivers and are picked up by Team C, D, and E. Over the course of the 2-3 days the traded players are in the starting lineups of Team A and B, contribute significantly and result in defeats for Team E and F that they are playing against. The Commish makes the call to void the trade. At this time, Teams E and F both start arguing (with good reason possibly) that they never should have lost. Teams C, D, and E now don't want to drop the players that they picked up (that were dropped by Team A). Team A wants the players back though. In addition, Team B wants to keep a couple of the players they picked up on the waiver wire before the trade occurred. And let's not forget Team G which had wanted to pickup one of the players Team B picked up a few days before and points out that they may have won their game if the trade had never occurred. Oh, and lets add another twist that could easily occur now that there are upwards of 10 players involved - 1 or more of the players involved is injured during the 2-3 days this all occurs in. Let's also just hope this doesn't happen in a late July/ early August trade when the race is on the line (oh wait, isn't that when the questionable trades normally occur?)

If I were the Commish, I would try to avoid the possibility of such an event happening. Although the above scenario may be hypothetical, it certainly is reasonable to think that 2 teams would be involved in a trade, 1 or 2 would have the waiver issues noted above, and 1 or 2 may win/lose a game based on the traded players starts.

The existing system works, so why change it. The only issue is if a trade is executed and then an owner is out of town. It happened to me this year, but all I had to do was e-mail the Commish ahead of time (& post a notice to the league as per Joe's suggestion). Why fix something that is not broken? Especially when the possible consequences could cause bad blood, hurt feelings, and unhappy owners.

[Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers]

Once again I have gone ahead and posted the comments from the CBS site on the Trade Review period.


Chris King
D-Town Diamond Dusters
Aug 6, 2013 12:57 AM ET

Trade Waiting Period
What do you all think about eliminating the waiting period for trades all together next year? I think I would set it up so that all trades were commissioner approval required. That way, if a trade is accepted on the east coast early in the morning, I can wait until games start that day to approve it and a team won't get burned on their lineup for the day. I've been pondering this one for a while, but wanted to wait until after the trade deadline had passed to toss it into the forum. All trades would be approved same day. There would be no more waiting 1.5 days for your trades to process. Anyone who objects to a trade can email me, and then without naming names I would take it to the 'Pen for review. Thoughts?

Jeffery Geithman Jr. - Great idea! Approve!

Doug Lew - i like it. then Upton wouldnt have gotten that homer against me.

Chris King - LOL. This is true.

Joe Molinaro - I was going to ask this as the trade deadline there is no way to do a 3 team trade .My son wanted J Upton he said but I had no chance to pawn him over

Doug Lew - Three team trades are allowed. They are just hard to make a deal. You just need to clue Chris in on the trade.

Doug Lew - I. Three and four team trades are allowed, but must be run through me since CBS does not have an option to make more than two-team trades. All owners involved must email me the details of the trade and confirm that they agree to make said trade. I will then manually adjust the rosters Immediately upon receipt of emails from all parties involved.

Mike Fendrick - I still like the review period as is and have not seen it as a big issue.

Doug Lew - what would happen to the clause for if a player is traded and gets hurt or traded in real life. can you get a return on your money, reject the trade after it happened?

Joe Molinaro - review period is fine,either way works here but the trade deadline is the only day that could be instant so you can make multiple moves not be handcuffed waiting

Kenji Kano - I think the trades should be instant upon comissioner approval.

Aaron Tonning - I agree, trades should not go through approval.

Jeffery Geithman Jr. - Doesn't matter to me, either way.

[Joe - Milwaukee Brewers]

Chris ,how is a 3 team trade to be done for next year?....I am unsure if the site can allow this..what am I MISSING?

[Kenji - Raccoon City Swarmers]

^ Lets figure out if were going to do instant requests first or not then we can decide how the three team trades will go through.

Mike, your hypothetical cant work out like that because the trade wont go through until Chris puts it through. It doesn't automatically execute. It waits untill Chris accepts it then it goes through. So you cant have questions about it days later and make it screw up. It will all depend on Chris to see if its a fair trade or not and then if he thinks it looks a little fishy then he can put it up to a vote. Right now we had ZERO trades get vetoed (except one technically. that wasnt even overturned in the end because people probably just vetoed it looking at the trade face value and not with keeper stats)
Everyone in this league is pretty responsible for trading and all the trades Ive seen go through are pretty fair.

Again I vote for the trades to be instantaneous. I dont think the veto process is completely relevant because in the beginning of the season people rarely make trades and in the end of the season only 1/3 of the teams are actually paying attention and care. So vetos become useless since its hard to get enough votes.

[Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers]

I am OK with the instantaneous only if it means the Commish still has to actually execute it. Then there is a control to prevent having to undo multiple moves, additional trades, etc.. I am against a true instantaneous that flips player immediately.