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Post by Doug - Tatooine Tusken-Raiders on Aug 4, 2014 16:03:20 GMT -8
I'm not liking the amount of points removed for a blown save and relief loss together. That's -7 points. A save is only worth 6 and a RW is 7. I think that the penalty should be lessened. Maybe -2 for bs and -4/-3 for RL?
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Post by Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers on Jan 29, 2015 16:12:02 GMT -8
Looking at the projected points, I am amazed at the difference in the elite pitchers versus elite batters. I am wondering if we are double stacking against the batters with our minus 1 point penalty for each SO. I would be interested in seeing minus 0.5 points for each batters SO. In addition to evening up hitters and pitchers a little more, it would open up some slots to the Mark Reynolds and Adam Dunns of the world (SO or HR, nothing in between).
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Post by Mike - N.C. Pine Tar Sluggers on Jan 29, 2015 16:21:48 GMT -8
I'm not liking the amount of points removed for a blown save and relief loss together. That's -7 points. A save is only worth 6 and a RW is 7. I think that the penalty should be lessened. Maybe -2 for BS and -4/-3 for RL? I agree with Tatooine on this one. We are carrying 4 RP and this is a severe penalty. I could live with his point suggestion, but wonder if the fix is to reward a Save with 8-10 points. In points league I have played in the past Saves have the same values as Wins. In our league a Save is 6 points compared to 10 points for a Win. More out of whack is that a Save is 6 points a Relief Win is 7 points (10 for a Win - 3 for a RW). In no case should a RW be more than a Save since a Save the closer did his job - a RW means your team's hitters made a comeback for you. I would suggest increasing a Save to between 8-10 points since a BS is effectively minus 7 pts and a RW is 7 pts. A RL remains -4 (-5 +1). Note that under Tatooines suggestion a Save remains 6 pts, a BS is effectively -5 (-2 for BS & -3 for a RL), and a RW remains 7 pts. I assume that he means overall a RL would become minus 3 (-5 for a L & +2 RL)? For reference, now a Save gets 6 pts, a BS minus 7, and a RW 7 pts. A RL is is minus 4 (-5 for a L and +1 for a RL). In all scenarios a Win remains 10 pts for a starter and L is -5 for a starter. |
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Post by Jack - Raleigh Lumber Jacks on Jan 29, 2015 20:09:55 GMT -8
Looking at the projected points, I am amazed at the difference in the elite pitchers versus elite batters. I am wondering if we are double stacking against the batters with our minus 1 point penalty for each SO. I would be interested in seeing minus 0.5 points for each batters SO. In addition to evening up hitters and pitchers a little more, it would open up some slots to the Mark Reynolds and Adam Dunns of the world (SO or HR, nothing in between). While I get what you're saying with elite pitchers being so much greater than elite hitters, I disagree that we should change the SO rule. I remember somebody posting a couple months ago that pitchers only averaged 2-4 pts more than hitters overall. So even though the best are scoring substantially more for pitchers, there appears to be a huge drop-off once you go down the list for pitchers. Hitters on the other hand don't ever get as high, but are much more respectable across the boards. Right now elite pitchers are dominating the game. When approximately 35 hr's are leading the league instead of the 40-50+ that we were accustomed to for so long, elite hitters overall numbers are obviously going to drop-off. With Manfred ( New MLB Commish) proposing all these pro-offense rules(like banning shifts and tighter wound baseballs) I'm sure hitters will have the upper hand soon. In the meantime I feel that the scoring system for SO's is fair and pitchers astronomical numbers are a reflection of where the game is today, not that we have a problem with our scoring system. I do agree with the changes to the RP rules though. |
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